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Comments on: Funeral of Trite Ideas https://twodee.org/blog/16919 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:21:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.1 By: Chris Johnson https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256394 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:21:59 +0000 https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256394 In reply to Paul.

I considered adding Fibonacci and possibly even factorial-via-recursion, but I feared offending too many people!

Though I don’t use Fibonacci in CS1, I do bring it up in my programming languages class when we write a higher-order memoize function to cache the lookups and make it run in O(N) time.

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By: Chris Johnson https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256393 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:17:22 +0000 https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256393 In reply to Andy.

Some of these definitely have algorithmic merit, but I choose not to use them because I see them so frequently in CS1 textbooks. If my university students have taken a computer science course before, then they are likely to have encountered these examples.

I’ve always been concerned about telling the same person the same story twice as if they hadn’t heard it before. It feels inauthentic and impersonal. When I use someone else’s stories, especially those that come from a CS1 “canon,” I fear that students will dismiss me and the discipline.

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By: Paul https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256392 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:31:27 +0000 https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256392 I love the inspiration and the examples. I would strengthen the claim for Shape, Vehicle, and Employee: they all need to go away, along with Animal. I’m pretty sure these directly contribute to students’ misunderstandings of domain modeling and object-oriented design.

I think you got the biggest culprits in your first pass, but we could think about adding Fibonacci as an example as well. If everyone in the class is also a math major, then Fibonacci is probably pretty neat. Otherwise, not so much. It’s still better than Towers of Hanoi, though, since at least it has some pop-culture traction.

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By: Andy https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256382 Sun, 24 Feb 2019 22:09:23 +0000 https://twodee.org/blog/16919#comment-256382 For university level maybe, but these ideas are great for school level students if they are learning about coding and mathematics. The tower of Hanoi recursion though will be challenging. Others to invite could be printing a times table (iteration) and/or a program for testing prime??

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